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Iuris · Dec 17, 2010, 07:57 AM // 07:57

I guess you all know why I'm asking. So, any ideas about one that would work?

Caw521 · Dec 17, 2010, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Maybe use barrage to fuel adrenaline shouts and chants such as GftE (+finales), or replace his bow with a spear and use a spear/pet build. Dunno how great degen conditions are in pve, but sometimes I use a SaO + Poisonous bite combo followed by spear attacks and merciless throw. It might combine with Find their weakness for the para on the pet or self.

Olle · Dec 17, 2010, 10:40 AM // 10:40

i dont see why they're making him an paragon, true , we already got 3 ranger heroes (magrid, susouke,pyre) so thats a fact, but hes always been a ranger, why make him a paragon then?

and giving an paragon hero a bow is just...wat???

imo, they'll update it and give him a spear as a starter wep,though i would not be suprised if they didnt, as the live team..sucks..

and what about that mysterious assassin he was working with, thought we would have her as the new hero,

godis · Dec 17, 2010, 12:51 PM // 12:51

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Originally Posted by kajusbonus

and what about that mysterious assassin he was working with, thought we would have her as the new hero,

Yeah couldn't they have changed her into a rit instead of Kieran into a para !!

FoxBat · Dec 17, 2010, 02:00 PM // 14:00

Fairly recently in the "7 heroes" thread in AI forum there's a bunch of builds playing around with barrage or volley. With that you can spam GFtE/Anthem of Envy. The latter can be very nice if you are running spiritway, and P/R would be preferred for higher command damage boost, better IAS and better energy management.

Spears lack of AoE pretty much sucks in PvE so bows aren't that out of the question.

LifeInfusion · Dec 17, 2010, 03:59 PM // 15:59

I would just put Keiran's Bow on Pyre (a charr) for the Lols.

In all seriousness, I think P/R only has antidote signet going for it. I guess you could be lame and run Natural stride and poison tip signet. Heket's Rampage would work if you run a skillbar with no attack skills, although that's only if 20 armor and maintaining Aggressive Refrain is a big deal. You need 9 in beast mastery for 9 out of 10 seconds though.

P.S. I tested new bow to use in the Hearts of the North solo content. You can't use it to enter the mission.

Lyric of Zeal
Signet of Synergy
Antidote Signet

Run signet of rejuvenation on monks/ SoLS on necros/Leech signet/Unnatural signet on mesmer/ antidote sig on Rangers. Eles fall over and die because they have no signets

. Warriors only have signet of strength. All melee characters can bring Trytophan signet.

The one Motivation skill I really want to see usable is Song of Power. I suspect you'd have to run all signets + adrenaline skills to pull it off, since 25 energy on a Paragon is hell.

Lanier · Dec 17, 2010, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Khomet had some para builds that used bows with volley to fuel adrenal shouts.

Khomet Si Netjer · Dec 17, 2010, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Fairly recently in the "7 heroes" thread in AI forum there's a bunch of builds playing around with barrage or volley. With that you can spam GFtE/Anthem of Envy. The latter can be very nice if you are running spiritway, and P/R would be preferred for higher command damage boost, better IAS and better energy management.

Spears lack of AoE pretty much sucks in PvE so bows aren't that out of the question.

I think this is the key reason why spear dps is inferior to other weapons in PvE... lack of multi-attack skills means that everyone else gets more benefit from attack buffs such as Orders and Splinter Weapon as well as more damage from the attack(s) themselves. My paragon team uses P/Rs with Volley to help address this problem.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Khomet/Kway

topsmoker1 · Dec 24, 2010, 12:21 PM // 12:21

i use hero paragon with bow like this :

anthem of flame/of weariness, stand your ground, anthem of envy, barrage, fall back, comfort animal, res.

works great with hero rangers barragers.

bj91x · Dec 25, 2010, 07:38 AM // 07:38

When I tested Keiran with a bow and Barrage, he didn't use Barrage often enough. Compared to a regular Ranger hero, he seemed to use Barrage about half as often. Even when at full energy and no other attack skills to use, he simply auto attacked far too often.

Verene · Dec 27, 2010, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Someone posted a build in the new hero thread in Riverside using Soldier's Fury and Volley to build up mass adrenaline to power shouts. I've been playing around with it, and while it seems kind of awkward, it does work quite well. So far I've used Kieran with that build on a vanquish and also helping my brother with Riverside Assassination; the vanquish was pretty damn easy, and we had a far easier time of RA than when I did WiK.

It's not perfect and I'll probably tinker around with it a bit, but it does work pretty well and for the most part (I generally micro Fall Back! else he's using it constantly) it's just a fire and forget build, which is nice. I'm too lazy to micro heroes.